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Black Friday shoppers: Thanksgiving not for sales
Valerie Thompson checks on daughter Charliann, 2, who decided to explore while mom gets in a little holiday shopping at Walker Pharmacy & Boutique Friday. Thompson said she participated in a little of the Black Friday madness earlier, mostly to "people watch." - photo by SCOTT BRYANT/staff

Black Friday gets a little less frenzied

AP Business Writers

NEW YORK — Black Friday seemed a little less crazy this year.

There were squabbles here and there, and elbows got thrown, but the Friday morning crowds appeared smaller than usual and less frenzied, in part because many Americans took advantage of stores' earlier opening hours to do their shopping on Thanksgiving Day.

That might be hard to stomach for people worried about commercial encroachment on Thanksgiving. But it is good news for bargain-hunters who hate crowds.

Whether it's good news for retailers remains to be seen. Sales estimates for the start of the holiday shopping season will start trickling out later in the weekend.

Stores such as Wal-Mart and Target reported brisk Thanksgiving crowds. The colossal Mall of America in Bloomington, Minnesota, said it drew 100,000 people between 5 p.m. Thursday and 1 a.m. Friday, nearly what it draws over a typical full day.

On Friday, plenty of shoppers were out, but it wasn't elbow-to-elbow, said Moody's analyst Michael Zucchero, at a mall in northern Connecticut.

"Traffic seems a little light," he said. "Stores being open last night takes away some of the early birds."

Brooklyn residents Paul and Mary Phillips shopped at Target, Old Navy and Marshalls on Friday at the Atlantic Terminal Mall in New York City. They picked DVD box sets for $5, marked down from $45, and speakers for $19, down from $50. They didn't even have to wait in line.

"Because stores were open on Thursday, they're not as crowded now," Paul Phillips said.

There were scattered reports of shopper scuffles and arrests. In addition, protests were planned nationwide over minimum-wage laws and the grand jury decision in Ferguson, Missouri.

Protesters interrupted holiday shopping at major stores around St. Louis to vent their anger over the decision not to indict the police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown.

At least 200 protesters gathered at the Galleria Mall in Richmond Heights, about 10 miles south of Ferguson. Several stores lowered their security doors or locked outside entrances as protests sprawled onto the floor while chanting, "Stop shopping and join the movement."

In Chicago, about 200 people demonstrated near the city's popular Magnificent Mile shopping district, calling on people to boycott Black Friday shopping to show their solidarity with protesters in Ferguson.

Other disruptions: Best Buy's website went down on Friday morning for about an hour. Spokesman Jeff Shelman said "a concentrated spike in mobile traffic" prompted the company to temporarily shut down the site. Online monitoring firm Dynatrace said Cabela's, Foot Locker and J.C. Penney also had website problems.

Online shopping, especially on phones and tablets, may be siphoning off some shoppers from the malls.

IBM, which tracks online sales, said they rose 8 percent compared with Black Friday last year as of 3 p.m. E.T., with much-increased shopping on mobile devices.

In the stores, Toys R Us and Target executives said shoppers seem to be buying more than just the doorbusters and are filling their carts with items not on sale. That's a sign that lower gas prices and an improving job picture are making shoppers more confident about opening their wallets.

At clothing stores, discounts were steep, with Old Navy offering up to half off everything. Best Buy offered $100 off some iPads. And Target slashed prices on TVs and video game consoles.

At the Westfield Fox Valley mall in Aurora, Illinois, the mood was calm. Some groggy shoppers were still in pajama pants, coffee in hand.

Kimberly States, shopping with her 11-year-old daughter, said it was markedly quieter around 6:30 a.m. Friday than the night before.

"It was a zoo last night around 10 p.m.," States said. "Now it seems like more of the old folks."

Last year, sales on Black Friday slumped 13.2 percent to $9.74 billion, according to ShopperTrak, which tracks data at more than 70,000 stores globally. Bill Martin, co-founder of ShopperTrak, said it is unclear how stores will fare this year.

Retailers have turned to Thanksgiving openings to stay competitive and avoid losing sales that have shifted earlier into the holiday, said Ramesh Swarmy, a retail partner at the Deloitte consulting firm.

The holiday weekend still sets the tone for the shopping season, whose sales this year are expected to rise 4.1 percent to $611.9 billion. That would be the biggest increase since 2011. Black Friday has been the biggest shopping day of the year since 2005.

Brian Cornell, who became Target's CEO in August and was at a Target store in New York's East Harlem neighborhood on Thursday, said shopping traditions have changed.

"It's been more of a week event," he said.

As a result, some Black Friday shoppers were disappointed by what was left on shelves.

Kathy Wise of Scottsdale, Arizona, started shopping at 5 a.m. with her mother-in-law, hitting Wal-Mart, Target, Toys R Us and Sports Authority.

"It's not as busy today," Kathy Wise said as the two combed through a shelf of Monster High dolls. They couldn't find the one Kathy's daughter wanted, and said it seemed as if some of the best deals and items were already gone.

"It's kind of a bummer," Wise said.


AP Writers Heather Hollingsworth in Kansas City, Kansas; Dan Sewell in Cincinnati; Sara Burnett in Aurora, Illinois; and Tali Arbel in Phoenix contributed to this report.


ALPHARETTA, Ga. — Many Black Friday shoppers say they avoided spending money on Thanksgiving Day because, they say, the holiday should be a time for family.

At North Point Mall in Alpharetta, Black Friday shoppers say they encountered lighter crowds than in past years. Stacie Oden of Roswell said she showed up at the Alpharetta mall — among the largest in Atlanta's northern suburbs — at 4 a.m. Friday.

"We came at a great time," Oden said. "The mall was basically ours."

Several shoppers said they believe the mall was a bit emptier Friday than in past years because more and more people are heading out to stores on Thanksgiving.

Best Buy stores in Georgia and elsewhere opened at 5 p.m. on Thanksgiving for an early start on Black Friday sales. Others, such as Target, Macy's and Kohl's, opened at 6 p.m. on Thanksgiving.

In Columbus, David Rice and his son, Avery, missed Thanksgiving dinner with their family to wait in line at a Best Buy on Thursday to get two 50-inch Panasonic televisions for $199.99 apiece.

"It's been a lot of fun. We've just been making some memories," David Rice said of the 33 hours they waited to be first in line. "The rest of my family was sitting around talking about it at the Thanksgiving table today and just laughing and saying how goofy it is. And we hadn't ever done anything like this, and probably won't ever do it again. But it was fun."

Some shoppers began camping out even before Thanksgiving. In Dunwoody, police posted a photo on the department's Facebook page of a tent set up outside a strip mall on Wednesday afternoon.

For some out shopping on Thanksgiving Day, the early Black Friday start was more convenient.

"We planned on going shopping anyways. Now we get to sleep tonight, instead of getting up at midnight and coming out. So it's not a bad idea," Rick Roberts told WSB-TV at Lenox Square mall in Atlanta Thursday.

By 9 a.m. Friday at North Point Mall, there were plenty of parking spaces on the outer edges of the lots, though it was tough to find one in the first few rows near the main entrances. Despite a minor traffic jam outside the American Girl store, shoppers said the parking lots were easier to navigate than in previous years.

"The parking lot wasn't as nutty as it usually is," said Derek Hartrampf, who drove to the mall from Canton. He said he thinks stores opening on Thanksgiving now make the Black Friday experience "a little less crazy than normal."

He and others out Friday said Thanksgiving shouldn't be about shopping. Among them was Carol Nanna of Suwanee, who was taking a break Friday morning outside the North Point Macy's, where she found some of her best deals.

"Black Friday means Black Friday," she said. "It shouldn't be on Thursday. That's your family time."


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